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Captain Kirk must learn the limits to the power of a 17-year-old boy with the psionic ability to create anything and destroy anyone. Captain Kirk must learn the limits to the power of a 17-year-old boy with the psionic ability to create anything and destroy anyone. Captain Kirk must learn the limits to the power of a 17-year-old boy with the psionic ability to create anything and destroy anyone.

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• Trivia In the original script, Uhura was to amuse the crew by performing as a trained mimic, imitating Spock and other officers. This was changed to her singing a song about Spock, followed by a spoof of the 18th-century Scottish song "Charlie is my Darling", the best-known version of which is attributed to Robert Burns , in order to highlight Nichelle Nichols ' singing talent.
• Goofs When the captain of the Antares is trying to warn Kirk of Charlie's abilities, Kirk is in a corridor talking to Charlie about not slapping girls on the butt. He says, "I'm on my way to the bridge now," and gets on the turbolift wearing his usual yellow shirt. When he arrives on the bridge he is wearing the green tunic.

Capt. Kirk : There are a million things in this universe you can have and a million things you can't have. It's no fun facing that, but that's the way things are.

Charlie Evans : Then what am I going to do?

Capt. Kirk : Hang on tight and survive. Everybody does.

• Alternate versions Special Enhanced version Digitally Remastered with new exterior shots and remade opening theme song. A highlight of the new special effects is the Antares, which was never seen in the original version.
• Connections Edited into Galaktische Grüße (1996)
• Soundtracks Charlie is My Darling (uncredited) Traditional Lyrics adapted from those by Robert Burns Sung by Nichelle Nichols

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A Thasian on the Enterprise bridge .

The Thasians are a psionically powerful, non-corporeal species , native to the planet Thasus .

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Until the 23rd century , the Federation had never encountered the Thasians and thus believed them to be a myth.

However, a transport vessel crashlanded on Thasus in 2252 and only a small child, named Charles Evans , survived the crash. Instead of allowing the child to die, the Thasians granted Charlie with some of their psionic powers so that he could take care of his own needs on the barren planet. In 2266 , Charlie was rescued by the crew of the Starfleet surveyor USS Antares , and from there taken to the USS Enterprise , where he would be transported to the Alpha V colony and live with surviving relatives.

While aboard the Enterprise , Charlie began to use his powers to influence the crew and their actions. Before he could create even more chaos on Alpha V, the Thasians managed to intercept the Enterprise and undid all of the damage that Charlie had done. When Captain James T. Kirk asked if Charlie could ever live among Humans again, the Thasians declared that he would always be tempted to use his powers, and transported Charlie back to Thasus. ( TOS episode : " Charlie X ", TOS - Star Trek 1 novelization : Charlie's Law )

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Below Deck with Lower Decks: The Good, the Badge, and the Ugly

Badgey, if you didn't really just accidentally turn into an omniscient god, you have to tell us!

SPOILER WARNING: Discussion for Star Trek: Lower Decks - Season 4, Episode 7 "A Few Badgeys More" to follow!

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Peanut Hamper, Agimus, and Badgey? We’ve just got all the evil artificial intelligences throwing down on this week’s all-new episode of Star Trek: Lower Decks !

It all starts with Lieutenant Tendi traveling to the Daystrom Institute on Earth to attend a parole hearing for Peanut Hamper (introduced in the first season’s finale episode, “ No Small Parts ”). While she tends to those proceedings, Lieutenant Boimler has come along so he can meet with Agimus , the nasty supercomputer who first showed up in Season 2’s “ Where Pleasant Fountains Lie ” and who’s also being held at the institute. The rogue AI claims to have information about the ongoing series of attacks against various starships by an unknown adversary, which he’ll only share with Boimler.

"A Few Badgeys More"

Naturally, everything goes horribly wrong because that’s what happens when Agimus and Boimler team up. Still, things go to a whole new level when we find out that Badgey, the malevolent little hologram created by Lieutenant Rutherford and who’s been missing in action since the end of Season 3 (“The Stars At Night”), is still kicking. A cybernetic implant lost by Rutherford in “No Small Parts” and containing a copy of the Badgey program was recovered by Drookmani salvagers. Once activated, Badgey takes over the Drookmani ship. Whoops.

Long story short? Things go crazy in the way only an episode of Lower Decks can make things go crazy, when Badgey attempts to hack into the Federation computer network while traveling at warp 9.9. This triggers a metamorphosis that transfers him to a plane of existence where he can occupy every computer system, everywhere, all at once (That’s right. I said it.). Then he transports himself to another dimension so he can create a whole new universe to his liking.

What could possibly go wrong? Stay tuned…..I guess?

"Charlie X"

Meanwhile, the idea of “ascending” to some higher order of life form or realm of existence is not new to Star Trek . One of the earliest examples is Charlie Evans, the lone survivor of a spaceship crash encountered by Captain Kirk and his crew in the first season Star Trek original series episode “ Charlie X. ” The civilization of the planet where he crashed, the Thasians, gave him extraordinary powers so he could survive on their world, but they’ve made him wholly unsuitable for living in a universe of “normal” people.

"Errand of Mercy"

Then there are the Organians, a race of non-corporeal beings who long ago grew beyond the need for physical form. In the first-season Star Trek episode “ Errand of Mercy ," they step in to preempt all-out war between the Federation and the Klingons. They’ve advanced so far that they don’t even like being around the rest of us, and evolved to the point they don’t mind telling us how much we suck. Rude, right?

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And how can we forget Will Decker, the captain of the refit U.S.S. Enterprise who gets bumped to the back seat when Admiral Kirk takes command in Star Trek: The Motion Picture ? At the end of the film, Decker ends up merging with the evolved machine-being V’ger before it can destroy all life on Earth. Part of that process includes joining with a recreation of Lieutenant Ilia, a former flame who earlier in the movie was killed by V’ger . Way to take one for the team, amirite?

"Journey's End"

In “ Where No One Has Gone Before ,” the first-season episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation , young Wesley Crusher is identified as having special promise by a mysterious alien being known as “the Traveler.” We learn the alien is capable of perceiving and traveling through time and space in ways beyond all human comprehension, and Wesley apparently carries the potential to rise to that level of existence. It wouldn’t be until the seventh-season episode “ Journey’s End ” that the Traveler returns to show us what he meant, when he taps Wesley to accompany him on a quest to realize his true destiny. Fans would not learn what all that entailed until “ Farewell ,” the final episode of Star Trek: Picard ’s second season. It seems Wesley’s been out there, traveling the universe, and hints at all sorts of amazing things. What. A. Tease. Dude.

"The Gift"

In the fourth-season Star Trek: Voyager episode “ The Gift ,” Kes, the Ocampa who’s been traveling Voyager since being rescued by Captain Janeway and her crew, finds herself in the grips of an astonishing transformation. At first, this poses a critical danger to the ship. Forced to leave the ship to save her friends, she evolves into a non-corporeal being with great powers. I sure hope she never gets mad at Janeway and her crew and comes looking for payback.

:: looks ahead in the episode guide :: Oh.

"Emissary"

There’s no way we write an article like this without mentioning The Man himself, Benjamin Sisko. His journey begins with the very first episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine , in which the Prophets, the central figures of Bajoran faith, identify him as their “ Emissary .” Sisko eventually lives up to the divination put forth by the Prophets when he ascends to their Celestial Temple in the series finale, “ What You Leave Behind. ” Will he ever return?

As with just about everything when it comes to Star Trek , I think you need to learn to never say “never” when it comes to this stuff. You’ll just sleep better.

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Interview: John de Lancie On How The Stakes Are Higher For Q In ‘Star Trek: Picard’ Season 2

| February 23, 2022 | By: Anthony Pascale 49 comments so far

TrekMovie joined a group press interview with John de Lancie to talk about returning to his iconic role of Q in the upcoming second season of Star Trek: Picard . The actor offered insights into how the character has changed, what’s motivating him, and more.

Note: The interview contains some minor spoilers and has been edited for brevity and clarity. 

You have said this is not the same kind of Q appearance, so can you talk about how the role on Picard was pitched to you?

When I went into Paramount to have a talk with [co-showrunner] Terry [Matalas]… In a sort of humorous way, I said, “You’re not putting me in back in those tights again, are you?” And he said, “No, no, no, no, no.” And I said, “Okay, I’m willing to listen a little bit more now.” [laughs] He really wanted me to understand that they did not want to go over old ground. And that was particularly good for me, because I am loth… there are real dangers in trying to recreate. I’ve been on a couple of shows which were recreations of very successful shows in the past, and that’s what sometimes they try to do and it was always disastrous.

So, knowing that we were going to start where we start with today and move forward was refreshing as far as I was concerned… There’s a part of me that is a little concerned that the audience will go, ‘It’s going to be the Q of old.’ And it would be kind of unseemly for me to be jumping around like mariachi band-time. So this is a new Q… not new Q, it’s just the situation is different. The stakes are higher. What I need to have Picard go through now actually affects me . So my stakes are higher as well. So it is a different look. Yet, if you consider this, dare I say a diamond, and you’re cutting different facets, it’s just yet another facet. And, and I think, an interesting one.

This is the same Q, but it’s a darker Q. How is it to lean into the angrier sides and build those layers into your character and your performance? How delicious is it approaching it with that in mind?

Well, you said it. There’s a deliciousness about it. And there is a desire from an actor who’s working with somebody else, is that you are trying to fulfill that and also kind of trying to bring some of it. You’re not letting it go, you’re just trying to bring some of it. So hopefully there’s a little bit of that stuff kind of sparkle still there. So yes, I am mad, bad, and dangerous to know. But this time I don’t even have the time to screw around too much. [snaps fingers rhythmically] Time is of the essence. That’s what you’re getting in this show right now, at least for me. Like, ‘We got to do this, and we got to do this now, and you, in particular, have to do this now, because you don’t have much time, old man. You don’t have much time.’

In this season, Q tells Picard he’s going to have to look at the roads not taken, and sort of reflect on choices he could have made differently. Is this because Q is also going to have to look back on some of his choices and also reflect on decisions that he’s made?

Yes, yes… That’s why I’m saying is that it’s just not me doing this [as] the puppet master affecting the puppet. I’m affected by this as well. The character is affected by this as well. And that’s why there’s an urgency in all of this.

Regarding the relationship between Q and Picard, what do you think draws Q to Picard out of all of humanity out of all time?

I think that there’s a genuine love for him. And in a way, I think he has that for me. Remember, I am a being that is in need of a lot, and looking for a lot. And this is a relationship that while I might be somewhat difficult to be with, I feel that I am very caring. And in this particular time, it’s really important. I need for him to do something because in fact, on top of everything else, it’s connected very much to what I need personally. So we are connected.

John de Lancie as Q and Sir Patrick Stewart as Jean-Luc Picard in Star Trek: Picard

What is it about humanity that Q is so obsessed with that he feels like he needs to keep testing them and manipulating them and just getting involved in their lives?

Perhaps it’s a desire on my part for you all to be better; to just to be more human, more better than what you’ve been in the past. In The Next Generation , in “Encounter at Farpoint” I say, “Why do deserve to be out here?” It is that teacher who you have a sort of hate and love relationship with but they make you better, they challenge you more. I think that that’s a component in this in this character and that and the relationship and dynamic I have with Picard, and also the rest of the cast, frankly.

You’ve had the good fortune to appear on multiple Trek series, not just The Next Generation , but Deep Space Nine and Voyager and now Picard . Would you say that this show has a similar spirit as the previous Trek series that you’ve been a part of?

Well, it has a Star Trek spirit, which is to say that it’s about something. It is a darker show. And certainly, the way I am playing the character now is a lot less whimsical. It would be kind of unseemly at this age to be trying to recreate what was done twenty-some years ago, and the writers didn’t want that–very, very specifically did not want that. So, as actors, what we mostly are looking for is: What does the scene mean? Does this mean something? What are we driving towards? And, and in that respect, the best of the Star Trek shows that I did in the past were always about big philosophical questions, which is also the case here in Picard .

Did you find it easy to step back into the Q role after 20 years?  

It was perhaps a little too easy. [laughs] Somebody asked about the clicking of the fingers and I said it’s just what I used to do with the kids, like, ‘pick up your clothes, let’s go!’ And so it was not difficult to get back into the role. And mostly because it’s just fun. It’s a fun role to play.

If this is the last time you ever play Q, how satisfied are you with the way Picard closes out the circle for you as the actor and Q as the character?

Well, it’s always the last time. Every time I finished the show, it was the last time. When I finished “[Encounter at] Farpoint,” it was the last time. I am happy that I got another whack at it. I finished a scene not too long ago that was very satisfying. There’s a sense of continuation. There’s a sense of, dare I say, a continuum to all of this that I’m now becoming more comfortable with and realizing that I get to put out a certain amount of energy and that the audience gets to pick up on that and continue it, and still grow it more and more.

I know, this is all beginning to sound a little airy-fairy, but playing this role, I guess in a way, it becomes a little bigger than you. It just becomes bigger than you. I do my little part and then I have so many people who seem to be interested who add their parts to it. And I don’t mean from the point of view of the crew in the cast, I mean, from the point of view of those who watch and listen. They add a little bit of themselves to this character. So it’s wonderful.

More to come

See our interview with co-showrunner Akiva Goldsman for more about Picard season two. TrekMovie will have interviews with Patrick Stewart and other members of the cast in the coming days, so stay tuned.

The second season of Star Trek: Picard will arrive on March 3.

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Hmmm, just enough to tease us, and build anticipation. Nice.

OK, I got it. This is Q from the mirror universe. There we go.

I know you are joking but that very well could be true given this group…

Seems to me that Q and his kind are likely “above” the mirror universe thing and can probably travel to other universes in the multiverse at will if they want to.

You’d think so but with this group you never know…

Gotta be! The beard!

In my opinion I only really thought Q got interesting towards the end of TNG, All Good Things for example is one of the greatest Trek stories ever. I know he was on DS9 & VOY but I have not watched for a while and I think he was more of a cameo appearence then adding anything

BUT I am interested to see Q again. I will be honest here, Picard Season 1 was without a doubt the low point of the franchise and my expectations for season 2 are rock bottom, but for some reason I want to see Q again, an elder more wiser more urgent Q. I think the problem with the character is they did not know what to do with him for the longest part.

So long as they have written the part well and it is integral to the show, this might be more than just another cameo. But there a lot of people in this show, so character screen time and development time is limited.

I will watch this because John De Lancie and Brent Spiner star, but I am expecting it to be bad based on track record

Curious that you felt Q wasn’t interesting until towards the end of All Good Things. Was that around the time he realized Picard wasn’t figuring anything out and decided to just flat out give him all the answers?

I think they did figure out how Q worked best. As a comic foil. That’s why I feel like a serious Q very well might have problems. I think it’s a tremendous balancing act.

That’s my fear – Q as combo comedic foil and menace and mentor was what make the character unique and interesting. There was a playfulness to his malice that made the mentor role work. I hope he hasn’t lost that sense of charm when he switched to the black leather.

I didn’t mean the end of the episode I just meant towards the end of TNG in general. I have not watched All Good Things for a while, I am not sure why Q helps Picard & Humanity but Q is a more rounded character there – he has a purpose and the balance of comedy & seriousness I do not think they ever quite got it as good again.

Q and Picard together could be a great show on its own without these supporting cast members. One thing Nu-Trek does not do well is develop supporting characters, the danger here is that every character / actor will be underutilised, and that would be bad for De Lancie as Q, they have to honour that character. As weak as encounter at farpoint was, Q was part of TNG from the start so his character deserves a fitting finale

I fully agree. That’s the ep where I finally began to appreciate the Q character.

I was very disappointed in the season finale of ‘Picard,’ but a lower franchise moment than “And the Children Shall Lead”? Seriously?

I’m not the OP, but I probably wouldn’t compare unequal chunks like a whole season of one show to a single episode of another. That said… you know, thinking about it…

For many years, whenever the subject of terrible episodes of TOS (or the franchise in general) has come up, a frequent candidate for Worst Episode Ever has been something like “Spock’s Brain”. It’s certainly a contender, with the frankly embarrassing spectacle of a brainless Spock being walked around by remote control and all, and it’s not an episode I’d be dying to show a Trek newbie. But for all that, I don’t really think it’s actually the worst episode, nor is something like “The Way to Eden”; whatever else one might say about those episodes, they’re not boring. They have a certain energy about them that keeps them moving right along; they’re not exactly really… “hard” to watch. I’ve long thought that “And the Children Shall Lead” is a much, uh, stronger contender for Worst Episode Ever for the leaden quality of its narrative; it’s just kind of a dreary slog to get through.

But… but but but. “Dreary slog”, long my favored way of referring to “And the Children Shall Lead” (after I think I saw Jeff Bond refer to it that way on the Film Score Monthly message boards years ago, IIRC) is one of the most apt, succinct descriptors I can think of to encapsulate the entirety of S1 of Star Trek: Picard . It doesn’t say everything one might want to say, but if one had to sum it all up in just two words, I’d have a really tough time coming up with a better two-word phrase than that. But wait – there’s more! The show is also upsetting, giving us unpleasant ends to established, beloved characters a number of us had wanted to see again for many years and had been rooting for. It’s also kind of convoluted and muddy; the narrative is actually kind of sloppy. “And the Children Shall Lead”, whatever its sins, has a certain clarity of purpose and “a leads to b leads to c” quality that’s really not there with Picard S1. It’s true “And the Children Shall Lead” doesn’t have anything like the handful of genuinely lovely little wistful or nostalgic moments and scenes that are present two or three times in Picard , but it also doesn’t have the sheer volume of unpleasantness to get there the later show does, nor does it require the viewer to invest so much effort in following the narrative for such a meager payoff. Honestly, I’d rather rewatch that one not-great TOS episode than the entire Picard first season (and indeed have, as I’ve seen “AtCSL” multiple times over the course of my decades as a fan already, whereas I’ve watched each episode released so far of the later show just once, and at present am not sure I’ll ever rewatch any of them).

It’s also just plain easier to forgive the flaws of a single disappointing episode of a show from the 1960s, produced under the punishing schedule and constrained resources endemic to network TV production in that era, than a entire season of serialized storytelling in the post-“peak TV”, prestige television streaming era, on which are lavished such vastly greater resources as surely were on this show that TOS’s makers could scarcely have dreamed of. That includes not just a half-century-plus of technological advancements but also a shooting schedule that must have seemed relaxed to the point of hedonistic excess to someone from the ‘60s television milieu, all under the aegis of a Pulitzer-winning literary author. Perhaps all that inflated my expectations beyond reason, but honestly, even before taking into consideration the incomparably vast production advantages Picard S1 had over the entirety of TOS S3 (to say nothing of any one single episode) and adjusting expectations and evaluation criteria accordingly, Picard S1 contains not only less good than all of TOS S3, but also more bad than “And the Children Shall Lead” specifically.

Is Picard S1 a lower ‘point’ for the franchise than “And the Children Shall Lead”, then? Hell , yes , I’m sorry to have to say. Man, do I ever hope S2 is better.

So that issue of Q being a bit more “darker” seems interesting here. I mean they are doing a streaming show here and they don’t have any sort of network limitations so how “dark” can they actually go with Q? Maybe they’ll just tone down some of his over the topness but I don’t think they’ll go full Thanos, destroy everything, R-rated Q.

Judging from this interview and Goldsman’s earlier comments, it sounds like Q is facing his own mortality (somehow) or a de-powering. Considering the comment that it’s a dark show, maybe the unraveling of Q (or the Continuum as a whole?) will threaten the entire galaxy and only Picard can save it?

In any case, season one is going to be hard to top! It’s one of the best seasons of television ever made.

…in my humble opinion, this ‘only one person can save the world/galaxy/universe’ trope long ago became mind-numbingly old. Hoping for something different here, even dare I say something special.

First bit of good news… DeLancie infers that Q is in a situation where he cannot just “snap” out of it for some reason. That’s good. Part of the problem with Q was you knew he could, and would, fix everything at any moment.

I get the idea that the tone here is more serious but the problem with Q before was that when he was serious and menacing the character just didn’t work. He never felt particularly scary. When they started going light with him, turned him into a clownish figure, that was when he started to work some. And that is why I feel that bringing him back is a risk.

I have come up with a way Q could be a little different here… Time for him is not like time for the more corporeal beings like humans. So he could have been bopping around for a millennia to him but 20+ years for JL. Anyway… If the show shocks us all and is good that won’t matter very much.

“Part of the problem with Q was you knew he could, and would, fix everything at any moment.”

Agreed. It’s like Deadpool or Superman — a character with too much power and air of indestructability to worry about him being killed, and so a lack of drama in terms of our perceived danger to the character…we know he will always survive.

It’s not just that. It’s that he never really felt menacing or scary starting with Encounter at Farpoint. It was obvious he has affection for humanity and wasn’t going to let anything truly bad happen to his new “pets”. I promise you that if Picard never asked Q for help with the Borg Q would have gotten them out of it anyway. And then the biggest tell of them all… Q spoon feeding an overly oblivious Picard everything to enable him to succeed at his so called “trial”. He WANTED Picard to get it. But even before that it was pretty obvious there was no real peril whenever Q shoed up. Just clownish shenanigans. Hell, he even brought Picard back to live in Tapestry!

Good points!

to be fair, in star trek (and most TV shows, Game of Thrones excluded), no villain is really scary because all characters have plot armor. So, are we ever worried about perceived danger when we know actors are under contract and characters only die when the actor leaves the show (Yar and Dax)?

There is that but that only is present if you don’t immerse yourself in the story. If you dethatch yourself from the fact that this is a production and focus on going on the journey with these people, you still realize that Q presents no true threat. Not after seeing his interactions with them over time.

To be fair, he did introduce humanity to the Borg. That wasn’t all goofs and good times and was a little spooky. But, you’re right with a larger thesis: nothing about TNG is very good until it gets recontextualized by the more realistic tone of Star Trek: Picard.

True about the Borg. Except as I said I never felt they were ever in any real danger. Q was going to get them out of it even if Picard decided to be stubborn and not ask for help. Yes, some crew were killed but Q cares about JL, not them.

And what you cited was not my larger thesis. Not at all.

To be fair, he did introduce humanity to the Borg

TNG implied very strongly that the Borg were already aware of the Federation and were coming in any event. (Cf. “The Neutral Zone” from season one, and Guinan’s familiarity with the Borg.) ENT, by the time it rolled around, confirmed this theory. Thus, Q’s actions were not malicious, but to alert the Federation to the threat and allow it time to prepare.

I have always liked the theory that the continuum is humanity of the far future, which is what Q hinted at in the final minutes of “All Good Things” (Picard: “what is it you’re trying to tell me”? Q, leaning towards Picard’s ear, backs off and says, “you’ll find out.”). To speculate, perhaps Picard’s becoming a synth in some way disrupted that process, triggering Q’s new visit.

Obviously no one knew what was meant with “You’ll find out.” It was intentionally ambiguous. One might argue that the events of Picard are meant to fall in line with the ambiguous words from All Good Things. Even that robo-Picard may live to see humanity evolve into the Q. Now that he’s synthetic.

I too have always like the theory about the Continuum being humanity, or the Federation, of the far future. If humanity or the Federation becomes extinct, he and the rest of the Q Continuum will de-exist.

I dare say Q could even have been bopping around for eons between innumerable parallel universes and maybe even between uncountable successive universes , maybe with Mrs. Q and Q Jr., and then because of the urgency that de Lancie mentioned, Q traveled back in time to the time and place of Star Trek: Picard’s second season, 20+ years after All Good Things and in the prime universe, but despite being godlike, the Q are probably not immortal, do age and become more mature, and are probably not truly omnipotent and omniscient, hence Q’s older appearance and greater seriousness, and hence his asking Picard to do something he himself cannot do.

Now that I think of it, that 20+ years is nearly 30 years.

I saw the first episode of Picard’s season 2 last night, and regarding how Q looks, all I can say is, “Spock on Organia.”

It seems like darker aspects in characters and/or stories are being celebrated more and more with the passage of time. For example tng was “bright”, ds9 was darker, voy was even a bit darker…. and this trend is visible all over the entire film/series industry. So why don’t they do everything just as dark as possible to satisfy audiences from the present even more and being prepared for future audiences as well?

…because that would be Picard and Discovery season 1? I get the frustration, but perhaps people forget or don’t always appreciate that even DS9 would very consciously pivot back from the brink. Sisko and Garak plot to trick the Romulans into a bloody war one week, then Vic Fontaine is helping Odo woo Kira the next.

Picard was relentless. Every character was tasked with burying horrible demons to a fault. I hope the fish out of water scenarios make this season feel less punishing.

I really think Q is not the cause of this history-change, I think he just gives Picard a chance to fix things after that Zombie-like guy’s race does it.

Just so happy Q is back. I didn’t NEED him to be back, but it was always a no-brainer to bring him back, especially once we were back in the 24th century again.

I don’t care what version of him we’ll get since I like them all. But it does sound like they are doing something different here and hopefully it will be good. And its interesting it’s Q who may need Picard’s help this time. Crazy it not only starts next week but we’ll have two shows on for at least a few weeks!

I know a lot of fans hate these new shows, but if you do like them then it’s a great time to be a fan! :)

it was always a no-brainer to bring him back

I’m not so sure about that it. “All Good Things” was an excellent send-off for the character, and while De Lancie had some chemistry with Mulgrew (unlike with Avery Brooks), his appearances in VOY cheapened the character (particularly the episodes that came after “Death Wish”).

Post-“Death Wish,” Q was mostly obnoxious or clownish, reduced to silly Civil War trivia and an excuse for letting Keegan de Lancie act alongside his father. There was no sense of tension or that Q was deadly serious. It was simply Q displaying comic toxic masculinity towards Janeway. The poster above who mentioned the mentoring aspect of the Q-Picard relationship hit it on the head. That was absent from VOY.

Personally, I loved the Q’s appearances in VOY and DS9, and I loved it when Sisko bopped Q in the face, which may have been foreshadowing that Sisko was godlike as well.

Now, I wonder if all the many godlike species in Star Trek – the Q, the Thasians, Trelane’s people, the Organians, the Prophets, and Nagilum – have formed some kind of federation, complete with its own prime directive – after all, the Organians do first contact missions – just so they don’t step on each other’s incorporeal feet or cross lightning bolts.

Sisko punching Q is still a big highlight for me! 😄

Q: You hit me Picard never hit me. SISKO: I’m not Picard.

I agree with you about his post-Death Wish appearances. I hated Q2 so much I can’t even watch it anymore. I hated his son

But it doesn’t make me like Q any less, those were just bad episodes and a bad take on the character. But de Lance was still great himself. And we’re talking over 20 years ago already. And the fact it’s 20 years later but you still have fans saying they wanted to see him again says a lot the character popularity. No one is begging to bring holodeck Da Vinci back (OK I made a post about maybe just a cameo somewhere but was shouted down by the fandom menace).

Also as the article stated it’s a different version of the character. It could still be bad (and I’m only cautiously optimistic about next season after the first…ugh) but have to see it first to know!

FWIW there are Picard ads all over Union Square station in the NYC subway. Printed-poster ads, and ads on moving screens. Most with Picard and Q, but some with Michelle Hurd and Isa Briones. Perhaps there are more that I didn’t see.

The stakes are always high, these writers don’t know how to write anything else, and they fail every time.

What I need to have Picard go through now actually affects me . So my stakes are higher as well. Time is of the essence. That’s what you’re getting in this show right now, at least for me. Like, ‘We got to do this, and we got to do this now, and you, in particular, have to do this now, because you don’t have much time, old man. You don’t have much time.’ That’s why I’m saying is that it’s just not me doing this [as] the puppet master affecting the puppet. I’m affected by this as well. The character is affected by this as well. And that’s why there’s an urgency in all of this. Perhaps it’s a desire on my part for you all to be better; to just to be more human, more better than what you’ve been in the past.

I agree with the speculation by other commenters here that the Q are actually future humans. Wild guess: Q needs Picard to ensure World War 3 happens in the 21st century, possibly including something involving a key 21st century figure (good or bad) critical to the PU timeline, otherwise it results in the “dark Federation” timeline, humans never become “better”, and humans never evolve into the Q.

Why Picard himself? Because it may be a causality loop: From Q’s perspective in the PU historical timeline, Picard has always been the person responsible for certain critical actions back in the 21st century that ensured the timeline continued to unfold in the established way. And this may be one of the major reasons for Q’s special interest in Picard all along.

Q is Michael Burnham…only explanation

Doubtful. Q appears perfectly audible, at least in the trailer.

Maybe Q is mortal now?

That would be a bit tedious given that was Data’s arc in the last season.

It certainly feels like that’s the big idea. It would be very postmodern or 21st century TV writing to taking a fantastical creature and wrestle it down into something relatable or recognizably human. But darkness/as close to the reality right outside the window as possible, even when something is fantasy or set in the future, is what the modern audience wants.

I am really looking forward to this. What Terry did with 12 monkeys was hugely satisfying, and I hope behind the scenes he has been able to influence the direction and arc of the season and the team allowed him to used his talent for telling ‘twisty’ time jump stories.

A more ‘darker’ Q will be a welcome addition, and it will just be great to see John and Patrick chew some scenery together again!

What if this is the conclusion of “The Trial”. The human race has been deemed not guilty by the Q as a whole. This is or will cause Q some harm either physical (life or loss of powers) or he will look wrong to his other Q. So he is changing one event in history to ensure the humans end up a “dangerous childlike race”. Ultimately this season ending the trial that Q always says never ended.

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Thasians are a fictional alien race featured in the Star Trek multimedia franchise. They first appeared in the second episode of season one episode of the original Star Trek series entitled, "Charlie X" .

Thasians are a sentient race of non-corporeal beings that hail from the planet Thasus . They are creatures of pure psionic energy possessing great power including the ability to mentally control others, project images into the minds of other beings across great distances, telekinesis, molecular dispersal and teleportation.

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In 2252, a civilian transport shuttle carrying the Evans' family crash landed on Thasus. The only passenger to survive was three-year-old Charlie Evans . The Thasians monitored Charlie and when food supplies ran low, they imbued him with a portion of their power, enabling him to survive Thasos' rough terrain.

Fourteen years later on Stardate 1533.6, a Federation cargo freighter, the USS Antares discovered Charlie Evans on Thasus and took him off world. They found that his closest living relatives were on Colony Alpha V. They contacted the USS Enterprise , which was en route to that sector and Captain James T. Kirk agreed to pick Charlie up and bring him to Colony Alpha V.

A hormonally imbalanced and socially inept young boy, Charlie used his powers to take control of the Enterprise , threatening the lives of everyone on board. When the Thasians discovered this, one of their number appeared on the bridge of the ship in the form of a glowing disembodied green head. The Thasian explained to Captain Kirk how Charlie acquirred his power. They teleported him off of the ship and brought him back to Thasus where they could keep an eye on him. [1]

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TOS: S1 – E2: Charlie X

STARDATE: 1533.6

The second episode of the new series (released the show after an encounter with an alien creature that must have salt — and she will kill to get it ) featured another exploration of a unique individual versus the crew of the Enterprise . It will not be the last time in which the crew of the Enterprise must face a life form that operates outside of the rules of humanoids.

Robert Walker as Charlie X with the legendary William Shatner as Captain James Kirk. Courtesy of CBS / Paramount

The story begins with the ship pulling alongside the cargo ship Antares , and their commander, Captain Ramart and navigator, Tom Ellis beam aboard. They are accompanying a young passenger, named Charles Evans. The young man was catching a ride with the Enterprise on his way to Colony Alpha 5, which is where his relatives are. We learn later that Charlie was the sole survivor of a transport crash 14 years ago, and he was alone from age 3.

It is unclear if the Antares is part of Starfleet, as the insignia on Ramart and Ellis are not the usual golden delta. Meanwhile, Kirk wears his greenish wraparound tunic for the start of the mission.

Kirk greeted the three in the transporter room, and Charlie displayed an unusual ability to manipulate the crewmen of the Antares… as he rolled his eyes, Ramart and Ellis could not stop praising the young passenger. Kirk does now seem to catch this trick.

The captain assigns Yeoman Rand to escort Mr. Evans to his quarters. Charlie seems to have never met a female before because he is dumbstruck when she speaks to him. Charlie turns to Kirk to ask if this is “a girl.” Interesting that the young Charlie has the intergalactic womanizer himself to help him understand what a woman is. Ha!

Interesting that the young Charlie has the intergalactic womanizer himself to help him understand what a woman is.

While under examination in sickbay, things get a bit awkward between Charlie and McCoy. Evans asks McCoy if he “likes” him. McCoy responds that he did. Charlie reported that the crew of the Antares did not care for him and that he was trying hard to make people like him.

Charlie observes one crewman slap the other on the butt and remembers that move when he sees Yeoman Rand later. He offers her a gift which happens to be her favorite. She must run as she’s on duty. But Charlie gives her a whack on her bottom, which she does not approve of. She instructs him to tell the captain what he did and why it was a bad idea.

On the bridge, Kirk notes that Charlie is having trouble with adolescent issues. Spock then asks McCoy if Charlie mentioned the Thasians while in sickbay. The Thasians, who were thought to be an extinct species, must have been around to assist Charlie in survival, as he was alone, the Vulcan argued. McCoy argued that Charlie could have survived from fruits and other native plants on the planet. This disagreement would eventually cause Spock to charge that McCoy was speaking emotionally and not scientifically. One of the many disputes that they would have through the series and later films.

Later in one of the recreational lounges, Spock and Uhura teamed up on an impromptu musical number. Charlie enters, and Uhura changes her lyrics to be about Evans, which embarrasses the young man. Charlie then uses his powers to choke Uhura. Charlie then entertains all in the lounge with some playing card tricks, which clearly infringe on the known laws of physics.

Members of the Enterprise’s crew enjoy a song performed live by Mr. Spock and Lt. Uhura. Courtesy of CBS / Paramount

Charlie asked Kirk to explain why it was not a good thing when he slapped Yeoman Rand. Kirk sputtered and was not able to come up with a satisfactory reason, and Charlie was left confused. Kirk was then interrupted by a call from the bridge. It turns out Captain Ramart from the Antares was calling to speak to Kirk. As soon as Ramart started to transmit, his transmission was stopped. “It wasn’t very well constructed,” Charlie said. Kirk turned to Charlie and asked if he thought something happened to the Antares. Spock detected debris on the scanners, which he determined was all that was left of the Antares.

Strangely, the mess hall contacted Kirk moments later to report that the meatloaf in the ovens had turned into real turkeys. Charlie stifled a laugh and walked into the turbolift.

Later, as Kirk and Spock played chess, Spock poses that Charlie is somehow responsible for the destruction of the Antares . Kirk then leaves the room as Charlie enters, who then engages Mr. Spock in a game. Spock crushes Charlie after just three moves. But then Charlie uses his powers to melt the chess pieces.

After that, Charlie runs into Rand, who attempts to introduce him to a younger crewman, Tina Lawton, Yeoman Third Class. Rand wanted to introduce him to someone his own age. Charlie does not accept this switch attempt and tells Rand that he does not want a girl, he wants to be with Rand. Charlie tells her that when he is around her, he feels “hungry all over.” Rand looks puzzled and a bit disturbed.

Rand goes to Kirk and says that she will soon tell Charlie to leave him alone, which would not be good for the boy. Kirk then pulls Charlie aside to discuss the melted chess pieces, which he uses to transition to a talk about being 17 and growing up. The captain tells Charlie that there are a million things he can have in the universe and a million things he cannot.

To help Charlie, Kirk then takes his shirt off and shows the young man some fighting techniques in the gym. Kirk shows Charlie a wrestling throw on a crewman, Sam. Then Kirk throws Charlie in the same way… but when Charlie is thrown, Sam laughs. Charlie then makes Sam vanish with his powers. “It’s not nice to laugh at people,” Charlie said. Kirk asks where Sam is, and Charlie replied simply that Sam is “gone.” Kirk summons security, who Charlie pushes back with the power of his mind. He also makes a phaser disappear. Kirk then bluffs and tells Charlie that if he does not go to his quarters, then the captain will be forced to carry him there.

Uhura then reports that all phasers have disappeared from the entire ship.

In the briefing room, Spock speculates that Charlie is a Thasian, who, according to legend, can use their powers to phase items out of existence. McCoy disagrees, citing the human physiology, which makes up Charlie’s body. Kirk then decides that they cannot take him to the colony as he might destroy the entire place and all inhabitants. Kirk summoned Charlie and asked him if he was responsible for destroying the Antares. Charlie said that he was.

Kirk then decides that they are not going to take Charlie to the colony. As this order is given, Uhura’s station explodes, and navigation no longer can enter instructions into their instruments. Just then, Charlie appears on the bridge and forces Spock to recite poetry. Charlie tells Kirk that they cannot change course and that he must get to Colony 5 as soon as possible.

Kirk then forces Charlie to release control over Spock. He then leaves the bridge and turns Yeoman Lawton into an iguana on his way to see Rand. He bursts into Rand’s cabin, and she tells him to not enter her room without knocking. He then says her never to lock the door again. He then tells her that she wants “her.” Spock and Kirk respond to the scene as Charlie starts to get aggressive. Rand slaps Charlie, and he blinks her out of existence.

“Why did she do that?” Charlie asks. He turns to Kirk and Spock, who he then tells, he still needs Kirk, because he needs Kirk to run the Enterprise. But Spock’s legs are broken. Kirk orders Charlie to let Spock go as well, which he does. Kirk then asks about Rand, but Charlie refuses to tell him where she is.

Kirk then escorts Charlie to a room with a force field protecting the door. To retaliate, Charlie removed the entire wall from the cell with his powers. Then Charlie goes from level to level wreaking havoc among the crew. Charlie then takes over control of the ship directly.

Kirk speculates that he might be vulnerable since he’s now running the ship entirely. His powers might be at their maximum, he supposes. Kirk attacks him physically, which allows the crew to regain control of the ship. Suddenly, Rand reappears, and Uhura reports an object off the ship’s bow.

A Thasian being appears on the bridge… a hologram of an old human’s face. The being returned all Enterprise crew to their former states. Charlie grovels and pleads with Kirk to let him stay with humanity. The being agrees to take Charlie from the Enterprise.

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This episode moves quickly and is paced well, but I am not sure if it’s just me, but the story is “old.” We’ve seen the young person rebel against their parents, which is essentially what this is.

Also, I found it a bit strange that the producers chose another fantastic being to be the subject of this second episode, rather than something more “science-y.” We have no scientific explanation for the powers behind the Thasians or where they have been or … anything. I also noted that the writer seems to have not decided exactly what they wanted the Antares to be.

At the start, the Antares is a “cargo ship;” later it’s a “science probe vessel,” and later still, the Antares is a “survey ship.” Perhaps it was all of these things — a particular class of Starfleet ships that can do it all. In the end, this episode was enjoyable and had a lot of highlights, most notably the friction between Spock and McCoy and Uhura’s singing.

RATING: 3 out of 5

Associate Producers: Robert H. Justman, John D. F. Black Director of Photography: Jerry Finnerman Production Designer: Walter M. Jefferies Theme music by: Alexander Courage Music composed and conducted by: Fred Steiner

William Shatner as Kirk Leonard Nimoy as Spock

GUEST STAR Robert Walker

DeForest Kelley  as Dr. McCoy Grace Lee Whitney as Yeoman Rand

Nichelle Nichols … Uhura Charles J. Stewart … Captain Ramart Dallas Mitchell … Nellis Don Eitner …Navagator Patricia McNulty … Tina Lawton John Bellah … Crewman I Garland Thompson … Crewman II Abraham Sofaer … The Thasian

Art Director … Rolland M. Brooks Film Editor … Fabien Tordjmann Assistant Director … Michael S. Glick Set Decorator … Carl F. Biddiscombe Costumes created by … William Theiss Post Production Executive … Bill Heath Music Editor … Robert H. Raff Sound Editor … Joseph G. Sorokin Sound Mixer … Jack F. Lilly Photographic Effects … Howard Anderson Co. Script Supervisor … George A. Rutter Music Consultant … Wilbur Hatch Music Coordinator … Julian Davidson Special Effects … Jim Rugg Property Master … Irving A. Fenberg Gaffer … George H. Merhoff Head Grip … George Rader Production Supervisor … Bernard A. Windin Makeup Artist … Fred B. Phillips, S.M.A. Hair Styles by … Virginia Darcy, C.H.S. Wardrobe Mistress … Margaret Makau Casting … Joseph D’Agosta Sound … Glen Glenn Sound Co.

Executive in Charge of Production … Herbert F. Solow

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The USS Enterprise meets the Antares to take charge of Charlie Evans sole survivor of a transport ship that crashed on the planet Thasus. For 14 years, Charlie grew up there alone, stranded in the wreckage, learning how to talk from the ship's computer systems which remained intact.

He is to be transported to his nearest relatives on the colony Alpha V. Crew members of the Antares speak praises about Charlie, but seem pleased to see the boy removed from their ship. After the transfer, they bid the Enterprise an unusually hasty goodbye and depart. Charlie undergoes a medical examination by Dr. McCoy. He tells the doctor the crew of the Antares did not like him very much, and that all he wants is for people to like him.

When the Antares gets nearly out of sensor range, it transmits a warning message to the Enterprise , but the message gets cut off before it can give the warning. Shortly after, Spock determines that the Antares has blown up.

Charlie quickly becomes obnoxious and shows signs that he possesses strange powers. First, he develops an infatuation with Yeoman Janice Rand. He presents her with a bottle of perfume, which turns out to be her favorite scent. Having observed a man in engineering seal an agreement to go to the recreation room with a slap on the rear, he does the same to Rand.

Charlie meets Rand later in the rec room, where Mr. Spock plays a Vulcan lyrette and Lt. Uhura sings. Charlie is annoyed with being a subject in Uhura's performance as well as with Rand paying more attention to the song than to him, so he causes Uhura to temporarily lose her voice.

In an attempt to get Charlie interested in a woman his own age, Rand introduces him to Yeoman Tina Lawton, but Charlie only has eyes for Rand and brushes her off. Later, Kirk tries to teach the young man how to fight. Sam, Kirk's training partner, laughs at one of Charlie's falls, and Charlie makes him vanish before Kirk's eyes. Shocked, Kirk calls for security guards to escort Charlie to his quarters, but Charlie says he will not let them hurt him; he then makes their phasers disappear. Charlie admits he used his powers to destroy the Antares , but says the ship would have blown up on its own sooner or later and insists, "They weren't nice to me."

Charlie discovers Kirk's plans to divert from Alpha V, and takes control of the Enterprise . He forces Spock to recite Earth poetry, turns Tina into a lizard, and chases down Rand. When she resists his advances, he makes her disappear. Charlie then goes on a rampage, hideously transforming or vanishing crew members at will.

Meanwhile, a Thasian ship approaches the Enterprise . The Thasian commander appears on the bridge, saying that his race gave Charlie his powers to help him to survive on their world, but these powers render him too dangerous to live among humans. The Thasians return Yeoman Rand and repair the damage Charlie has done, apart from the Antares . They promise to take Charlie to live with them. Charlie begs Kirk for forgiveness and pleads with him to not let the aliens have him, that they don't feel anything. Despite Kirk's statement that Charlie belongs with his own kind, the aliens take him.

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Was Charlie X a Q?

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• Feb 27, 2015

I've been going back and watching a lot of the originals lately. That episode had some mad Twilight Zone going on, but Charlie seemed like he had Q powers. Not unlike True Q.  

Charlie Evans was an orphaned human, given his powers at an early age by Thasians, so that he could survive.  

Fantastic! But who the Thiasans? Did they ever get mentioned again, ever? They did seem to have Q powers  

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Thasian  

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Spectral said: I've been going back and watching a lot of the originals lately. That episode had some mad Twilight Zone going on, but Charlie seemed like he had Q powers. Not unlike True Q. Click to expand...

Christopher

I don't understand the desire to lump every similar alien into the same species. If you think about it, the galaxy is over ten billion years old, but human civilization is only a few thousand years old. So species that are on the same technological level as humans must be immensely outnumbered by species that are millions or billions of years more advanced. Therefore, statistically speaking, the odds that any two given superbeings belong to the same species are infinitesimal. As for Trelane, what everyone seems to forget is that he didn't have superpowers at all. Everything we saw him do was the work of his technology -- the "instrumentality" he kept behind his mirror, and whatever backup system he used once that machine was destroyed. And aside from moving Gothos (which could've been an illusion), his machines didn't do anything that couldn't be achieved with a transporter, a replicator, and a holodeck. So why people imagine that Trelane is anywhere near the same level as the Q, let alone that he is a Q, is a source of constant bewilderment to me.  

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Fleet admiral.

The Thasians don't seem to be on the level of the Q. They actually have ships, for one thing...  

For what it's worth, in Peter David's novel Q-Squared, Trelane is revealed to be a young Q, our Q's godson and maybe more. It is a controversial choice, but the novel is so great I can forgive it.  

Novels are NOT canon.  

Christopher said: I don't understand the desire to lump every similar alien into the same species. If you think about it, the galaxy is over ten billion years old, but human civilization is only a few thousand years old. Click to expand...

borgboy said: For what it's worth, in Peter David's novel Q-Squared, Trelane is revealed to be a young Q, our Q's godson and maybe more. It is a controversial choice, but the novel is so great I can forgive it. Click to expand...

STEPhon IT said: Novels are NOT canon. Click to expand...

CorporalCaptain

Christopher said: As for Trelane, what everyone seems to forget is that he didn't have superpowers at all. Everything we saw him do was the work of his technology -- the "instrumentality" he kept behind his mirror, and whatever backup system he used once that machine was destroyed. And aside from moving Gothos (which could've been an illusion), his machines didn't do anything that couldn't be achieved with a transporter, a replicator, and a holodeck. So why people imagine that Trelane is anywhere near the same level as the Q, let alone that he is a Q, is a source of constant bewilderment to me. Click to expand...

SPOCK: For the record, how do we describe him? Pure mentality? Force of intellect? Embodied energy? Superbeing? He must be classified, sir. Click to expand...

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• Feb 28, 2015

I can understand why people want to make the connection, reality warping aliens to whom humanity were but toys or lab animals were very common in the TOS days, yet the Q were treated as something new and special when they showed up in TNG. I understand it's a big galaxy but how many species of pseudo-gods do we need? However even if one was to retcon the Thasians and Trelane into Q, we'd still have at least TWO species of neigh-powerful immortals: the Q and the Greek Gods. I'd say the Greek Gods, while displaying powers on par with some of the things Q did could still not really be Q because they basically all committed suicide simply by willing themselves to disappear, if it was that easy for the Q to die, it wouldn't ave been a plot point in Voyager.  

I've always felt there was a hierarchy of superbeings of various power levels, with the Q at the very top, the Douwd probably second (of the known superbeings), the Organians pretty high on the list, and the others at various lesser power levels. A lot of people tend to default to the assumption that all superbeings are equally powerful, but that doesn't make sense to me; surely there's a wide gap between human level and Q level, so there's got to be a range of power levels in between those. If humans are power level 1 and Q are level 10, there have got to be species at level 2, level 3, level 6.5, pretty much everything in between. Thasians are probably kind of middle-of-the-road (maybe level 4 or 5), and Trelane's species is pretty low on the list, given that they needed technological help.  

Christopher said: Trelane's species is pretty low on the list, given that they needed technological help. Click to expand...

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CorporalCaptain said: Christopher said: Trelane's species is pretty low on the list, given that they needed technological help. Click to expand...

CorporalCaptain said: The machine angle was just a red herring to keep us in suspense that he was really a god-baby. He even kept coming after his "machine" was "destroyed." Click to expand...

So, are we saying it was all bells and whistles like Ardra or did they have real powers?  

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Christopher said: CorporalCaptain said: The machine angle was just a red herring to keep us in suspense that he was really a god-baby. He even kept coming after his "machine" was "destroyed." Click to expand...

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On the surface, Tarka’s downfall appeared to start with his introduction to the DMA issue in Star Trek: Discovery season 4. Admiral Charles Vance (Oded Fehr) was impressed by Tarka's lecture on advanced warp drive technologies, which led to his work with Starfleet. He was recruited for his brilliance, which he put to use in various scientific missions. He later found himself working alongside Paul Stamets (Anthony Rapp) on the spore hub drive until their research shifted to stopping the planet-eating DMA.

Unbeknownst to the team, however, Tarka wasn’t just in it for the love of science or the desire to help. This became apparent when he went off the rails in season 4, episode 7, “…But to Connect.” Worse, he took advantage of Booker’s grief over the DMA’s destruction of his home planet Kwejian to get him caught up in his mess. So, what kept Tarka running down such a dark path despite all the destruction and chaos in his wake?

The Legend of Kayalise

Tarka’s true motivation was being reunited with his friend Oros in the mythical parallel universe of Kayalise. When they were both held captive by the Emerald Chain, the two not only worked together, but developed a profound emotional connection and desired to escape together. They believed that an interdimensional transporter would take them to this mythical realm of eternal happiness. Star Trek has always rejected the idea that this kind of joy is real or sustainable. Then again, Voyager once turned Starfleet officers into slugs , then had them mate. So, it wasn’t too far-fetched to think that Discovery might deliver on this seemingly impossible world. At least, that's what Tarka seemed to think when he returned to his former cell — only to find the symbol of Kayalise in place of his dear friend and partner Oros.

Tarka became obsessed with the idea that his alien friend had done what they’d worked so hard to achieve. This misguided hope of their impossible reunion drove him to a level of desperation that made him dangerous. He wanted a way into paradise, and didn’t care who got hurt along the way. While the two had different motivations, Tarka’s actions weren’t that different from those of Matt Decker (William Windom) in The Original Series . He took on one of Star Trek ’s coolest ships in season 2, episode 6, “The Doomsday Machine.” Like Tarka, he was unwilling to listen to reason, and it cost him his life.

Many Discovery fans have speculated about the nature of Tarka’s relationship with Oros. Some think that their shared trauma bonded the two characters , similar to Number One (Rebecca Romijn) and La’an (Christina Chong) in Strange New Worlds . The Emerald Chain kept them enslaved for a large chunk of their lives. All they had was each other. An unhealthy codependency seems almost inevitable under such horrible circumstances. Others think Tarka’s manic desire to find his way back to Oros stemmed from a romantic connection. In various flashbacks, the two can be seen cuddled up on a dingy cot, or staring wistfully into each other's eyes as they attempt to science their way to freedom. Discovery had plenty of LGBTQ+ characters on the show, and it wouldn’t have been strange if these two were among them. In fact, their ability to find love in such a hopeless place might have even been inspiring.

Regardless of whether it was romantic or not, Tarka’s love for Oros motivated him to extremes, and he never looked back. He lied, stole, and almost killed millions along the way. He ruined his reputation as a Starfleet officer. At times, it was hard to understand why he insisted on doing what he was doing, even when it was clearly the wrong thing. Others have crashed and burned in Star Trek: Discovery . But the collateral damage caused by Tarka’s actions in the name of love takes the cake.

Star Trek: Discovery

Release Date September 24, 2017

Genres Drama, Action, Adventure

Rating 7.1/10

Creator Bryan Fuller, Alex Kurtzman

Thasian ship

The Thasian ship was a space -faring vessel utilized by the non-corporeal Thasians . Apparently energy -based, the ship took on the appearance of an indistinct, green mass of light.

In 2266 , this ship intercepted the starship USS Enterprise to retrieve Charlie Evans , a young man whom the Thasians had given psychokinetic abilities which they themselves also possessed. The Thasian ship was scheduled to take him back to their homeworld of Thasus , due to Charlie and his powers having proved dangerous to others. ( TOS : " Charlie X ")

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Kurtzman and Noga Landau serve as co-showrunners and executive produce the series alongside executive producers Gaia Violo, Aaron Baiers, Olatunde Osunsanmi, Jenny Lumet, Rod Roddenberry, Trevor Roth, Frank Siracusa and John Weber. The series’ premiere episode is written by Gaia Violo.  Star Trek: Starfleet Academy  is produced by CBS Studios in association with Secret Hideout and Roddenberry Entertainment.

Diané, an accomplished singer who began his career as a contestant on The X Factor, recently starred in Peacock’s  One Of Us Is Lying  and opposite Gabourey Sidibe in  1266 . He will next be heard in the  This American Life  podcast in the episode “Afrikanas.” He’s repped by Paradigm and and Legendize.

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Kerrice Brooks, Bella Shepard, and George Hawkins have all been cast as cadets in the upcoming Paramount+ series. The trio join previously announced stars Holly Hunter , who will play the captain and chancellor of Starfleet Academy, and Paul Giamatti , who will play the season’s main villain.

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Brooks has previously appeared in projects like “The Prom” and “On My Block” at Netflix and “How We Roll” on CBS. She will next be seen in the film “My Old Ass” from director Megan Park and the period comedy “Feeling Randy.” She is also a highly-accomplished dancer, having performed with artits like Billie Eilish, Kanye West, and Lil Nas X.

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Following his escape from Thasus in November 2266 , the Thasians retrieved Charlie Evans from the U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 in this vessel. While sensors indicated that the ship was present, the Enterprise's deflectors didn't encounter any resistance from a solid object. Given its ethereal appearance and the Thasians' own noncorporeal existence and incredible abilities, it was unclear if the ship actually had physical form. [1]

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• Paramount has two new Star Trek films in the works, one a reported prequel and the other involving the original crew.
• The prequel is set to focus on humanity's early alien encounters and the formation of the Federation, aiming for new fans.
• The Untitled Star Trek origin movie is reportedly set mostly on Earth, while Star Trek 4 is still in the writing stage.

Star Trek' s upcoming prequel movie has a reported setting while the development of Star Trek 4 remains stagnant. 8 years after Star Trek Beyond bowed as the last Star Trek movie to hit theaters, Paramount is moving forward with two new Star Trek films in the works. The one closer to production is an Untitled Star Trek Origin movie directed by Star Wars: Andor' s Toby Haynes, which is reportedly a prequel penned by Seth Grahame-Smith.

The Hollywood Reporter published a story about the sale of Paramount to Skydance Media and what it means for Star Trek , which is called a "crown jewel" franchise owned by the studio, despite Star Trek movies never reaching the box office success of Star Wars films or Marvel Studios blockbusters. THR 's report gives a new detail that Toby Haynes' Star Trek prequel movie is "rumored to take place largely on Earth," as well as information about the long-gestating Star Trek 4 . Read the quote from THR below:

Paramount has two Trek films in development. One is a prequel focusing on humanity’s early contact with aliens and the formation of the Federation. Andor director Toby Haynes is attached to direct a script by Seth Grahame-Smith that is rumored to take place largely on Earth. The studio sees the project as an entry point for new fans who do not need to know about decades of canon (or keep up with the myriad shows on Paramount+). No cast or release date is set, but it’s in pole position to be the next Trek to hit the big screen. The other film would star Pine and his crew, including Zachary Quinto and Zoe Saldaña, and while it’s said that the cast is game to come back, an announcement in 2016 ultimately went nowhere due to salary disputes, while a 2022 announcement caught its stars by surprise. That iteration eventually lost director Matt Shakman to Marvel’s Fantastic Four . Still, Paramount has hired The Flight Attendant creator Steve Yockey to take the latest stab at a script billed as the final voyage for Pine’s crew.

It's been nearly a decade since the last Star Trek movie hit theaters, but new Star Trek movies are on the way for theatrical and streaming releases.

Star Trek's Prequel Movie Could Be Problematic For Canon

Here are some of the worries fans have about the untitled star trek origin movie.

Toby Haynes' Star Trek prequel movie is designed to bring in new and casual fans who aren't familiar with the vast Star Trek canon, but will that also alienate longtime Trekkers? The origin of Star Trek was essentially the subject of Star Trek: First Contact, which depicted humans' first warp flight, and led to mankind meeting the Vulcans. The Untitled Star Trek Origin movie appears to be set after these events but before Star Trek: Enterprise, which happens about a century after First Contact, if the report that the prequel movie is set "largely on Earth" is true.

So many questions surround the Star Trek prequel movie.

However, it's also possible this new Star Trek prequel movie may rewrite canon or further complicate what longtime fans already know as Star Trek' s existing history . There's also the question of whether a Star Trek movie that's mostly Earth-set is a "Star Trek." It's unclear what exactly this Star Trek prequel is about, and, since it's meant for new audiences, longtime Trekkers may not have the comfort of seeing any familiar characters or starships considering when the film is apparently set. So many questions surround the Star Trek prequel movie, and it's a shame Star Trek 4 still isn't in better shape since seeing Chris Pine's USS Enterprise cast reunite is a more enticing draw.

Source: The Hollywood Reporter

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