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Random misfire code, crankshaft/camshaft positioning sensor code

By bell May 16, 2017 in Engine & Transmission

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I have a 2009 Dodge Journey 2.4L with 116K miles. I ran the codes and I had a random misfire code, crankshaft/camshaft positioning sensor code. Ive replace the sensors, spark plugs and coil packs a month ago when this first started, it ran great until 3 days ago. All the codes are back and it runs so rough and has so little power i cant even get it to the shop. Any and all help would be great.

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when is the last time you cleaned the throttle body . what codes are you getting . 

i have never cleaned the throttle  body, and as far as the actual codes i don't know i take it to Oriellys and have them read it for me they said random misfire and crank/cam shaft sensor. Ive tried to get the codes from the dash board, switch car to on and off 3 times, but no code show up then it says done. Im at a loss for what it might be, ive talked to several mechanics and dealerships and no one can tell me what is wrong other than what the codes say. Someone suggested that it could be due to low fuel pressure? Any thouhgts?

As previously asked, what are the codes?

i dont have the code numbers and right now it wont run well enough to drive so i cant take it to get the codes read. 

I would order a code reader online , the are cheap. Codes and definitions can be found on line and  are a big help. 

Remember part stores are there to sell parts . 

Ibwpuld clean the throttle body , it is not that hard to get to and there are videos on u tube explaining how to take it off .  Fuel pump will not set a code itself and you have to check fuel pressure on the rail.

I would start by cleaning the throttle body . 

Thanks Dusty256 I'll give that a try

I broke down and took it to the dealership, they said its the PCM thats bad and causing all the issues. Any place i should look to get one cheap?

HA!  Now thats funny!  A cheap PCM....  

try the auto wrecker, maybe you get lucky.  It wont be cheap though....

Ive found them for about $250 online, the dealership quoted me $750!

Thats not a bad price at all.  I was thinking $400 or more

any luck with the PCM?

also is the car getting harder to start?

i havent gotten it in yet, i ordered one from a company that will have it programmed before they send it, should be in this week, ill let you know how it goes

Have you tried to replace the  crankshaft  sensor located in the back of engine  it's easier to get through underneath. It will be behind a heat shield remove only 2 bolts from the shield pull away enough to get the crankshaft  sensor out. It should only take about 20-30 mins to do. Replaced this on my friends 2.4L Avenger as well as his  spark plug s and coil boots fixed his rough  engine  power loss

On 6/1/2017 at 10:22 AM, Eduardo831 said: Have you tried to replace the  crankshaft  sensor located in the back of engine  it's easier to get through underneath. It will be behind a heat shield remove only 2 bolts from the shield pull away enough to get the crankshaft  sensor out. It should only take about 20-30 mins to do. Replaced this on my friends 2.4L Avenger as well as his  spark plug s and coil boots fixed his rough  engine  power loss

Yes i replace i last month as well as all the spark plug s and coil pack s, i broke down and took it to the dealership, partly because it had a recall anyways. they said it was the PCM and wanted to charge me $700 to replace it, i ordered one myself and it is supposed to come programmed. i will see if it fixes the problem it came in yesterday and i will try and get it swapped out this evening after work

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Hey did you ever figure out the problem?

9 minutes ago, Chris87 said: Hey did you ever figure out the problem?

This member you are asking has NOT BEEN ON since Jan of 2018 with NO REPORT BACK. I doubt they will reply to you here.

Maybe you could start your own thread of YOUR problem, and give good specifics of symptoms/codes/and previous maint done to get responses to try and help YOU out.

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Dodge Journey P0017: Crank/Cam Position Correlation – Bank 1 Sensor “B”

P0017 in the Dodge Journey is predominantly caused by a few different things. It is typically thrown when the Crankshaft Position Sensor and the Camshaft Position Sensor are out of alignment by a certain number of degrees, or if there is an issue with the wiring, or one of the sensors themselves may have gone bad. We’ll explore the symptoms and causes directly below.

P0017 refers to which camshaft position sensor is out of time with the Crankshaft. In this case it’s sensor “B”, Sensor “A” throws P0016

P0017 Symptoms: Dodge Journey

P0017 should be considered an important trouble code to diagnose and repair. The crank and cam sensors work in tandem to produce the ideal air/fuel ratio for your engine. When this timing is off, the engine will typically not run (or barely run).

Here are the major symptoms of P0017 in the Journey:

• Failure to start
• Rattle coming from the motor
• Service engine soon light
• Engine poorly running

P0017 Causes and Solutions: Dodge Journey

Here are the most common causes of P0017 in the Journey, as well as diagnostic advice, and resources to further explore. It’ll either be a wiring issue, or it’ll be a physical problem (bad reluctor or timing chain jumped).

Wiring Issues

One of the most common causes of P0017 in any vehicle is going to be wiring issues. You’ll want to inspect the wiring harness for visible damage. A lot of the harness leading to and from the Crank/Cam sensors is going to be exposed to hot exhaust and vibration. This is a great place to start diagnosing P0017 in your Journey. It’s quick and easy to do this before moving on to the sensors themselves.

Make sure to check the harness where it plugs into both sensors as well.

How to Diagnose Vehicle Wiring Problems (AA1 Car)

Bad Sensors

After examining the wiring harness, it would be time to check the sensors themselves. Using a simple voltage tester, you’ll be able to determine whether or not they are functioning correctly. We linked to a great video showing you how to do so directly below.

How to test a crankshaft or camshaft sensor (YouTube)

Crankshaft Position Sensor (Amazon Low Price)

Camshaft Position Sensor (Amazon)

The timing chain or belt will throw cause P0017 to throw. This will happen when it has stretched or jumped a tooth or two. If it jumps more than a few teeth, the odds are that the engine itself will not run at all.

If you’ve recently changed the timing chain, it may very well have not been aligned properly on install. Many manufacturers (particularly Japanese Automakers) have very strict timing chain service intervals. If it’s been too long, it may jump a few teeth. Even the slightest misalignment can cause P0017.

Timing Chain Jumped Symptoms and Diagnosis

Crank or Cam Tone/Reluctor Ring

The Crankshaft Sensor is going to use a tone or reluctor ring to determine the position of the Crank. This ring uses notches that are scanned by the Crank Sensor in order to get an accurate position.

If this ring fails, the Journey will not be able to get an exact crank position. The camshaft typically will have a ring that provides the same function.

Often when a reluctor ring goes bad, it’ll rattle quite a lot. That is a very good indication that there is an issue with it.

Here’s a good video on diagnosing P0017:

Good luck diagnosing P0017 in the Dodge Journey. If there is anything you would like to add, please leave a comment below.

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